Is is possible to have Nightfall first profession and Faction second profession? - Guild Wars Forums

edlyu · Oct 29, 2006, 09:42 PM // 21:42

I can't seem to go to Cantha to choose either Assassin or Ritualist as my second profession. It seems that I need to complete the quests "Time is Nigh" and "Plague in Cantha" but I can't seem to start the question line w/o choosing a second profession in Nightfall first. Is it even possible? Has anyone been able to do it?

thanks.

NinjaKai · Oct 29, 2006, 09:49 PM // 21:49

Why not go to tyria then cantha?

edlyu · Oct 29, 2006, 10:06 PM // 22:06

Seems like I need to finish "Time is Nigh" before going to Tyria as well. Sigh, I bought both Faction and Nightfall anticipating creating a RP character as Dervish/Assassin and I can't seem to do it.

Hanok Odbrook · Oct 29, 2006, 10:47 PM // 22:47

Unfortunately, this is a game design for all three chapters where you essentially have to complete the tutorial, one of the requirements being to choose a secondary profession, before being allowed to continue through the rest of the game or move to other chapters. I posted a suggestion to change this some time ago to allow those of us with linked account easier ways to choose chapter specific secondaries, but only through overwhelming support will Anet take notice and change it.

As it is now, you have to complete 20% of the respective campaign (70% in Prophecies), and reach ascension before you can change your secondary profession. Too much work in my opinion for those of us who already know what builds we want and wish to play them from the start.

Hanok Odbrook
Real Millennium Group Guild
Truth * Knowledge * Peace

Pkest · Oct 29, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48

You need to pick a secondary for now then do the quests to get to Tyria or Cantha. For Cantha you will still have to finish Nahpui Quarter Mission to get to where the Profession Changer is then you can unlock Rit and Sin for your Elonian Character.

HawkofStorms · Oct 29, 2006, 10:49 PM // 22:49

Ummm... You can become wei no su after completing "Time is Nigh" and going to Factions and then change your secondary. Bam, D/A.

hopefulliness · Oct 29, 2006, 11:09 PM // 23:09

Couldn't you go to the Great temple of balthazar and talk to the prof changer?
Or did they get rid of him?

Szechwan Chi Qin · Oct 29, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19

I tried talking to the profession changer at the temple, and he said I needed to be ascended or closer to the stars before I could change.

jon0592 · Oct 29, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31

Just pick a temporary 2ndary then do Time is Nigh or Plague in Cantha, then play till Senji's Corner and presto, you can buy /A.

gamecube187 · Oct 30, 2006, 03:49 AM // 03:49

Don't worry. Just chose any secondary. Do the quest to get to Cantha. Then do 2 missions (I'm pretty sure it's two) and you can change your secondary again, but to a Faction profession.

INFPGeek · Oct 30, 2006, 04:00 AM // 04:00

Also, once you hit the mainland. There will be a profession changer that will allow you to choose a factions secondary. That is to say after 4 missions and a few quests you can make your D/A (that is what I did).

It's also easier than trying to do the 2 required Cantha missions in something less than max armor.

Pkest · Oct 30, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28

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Originally Posted by INFPGeek

Also, once you hit the mainland. There will be a profession changer that will allow you to choose a factions secondary. That is to say after 4 missions and a few quests you can make your D/A (that is what I did).

Does this work on a character that hasn't been to Cantha yet? I've only been here with characters that already had sin and rit unlocked. If so that is a welcome change in policy.

Orinn · Oct 30, 2006, 04:09 PM // 16:09

It seems like it should. Dervish and Paragon secondaries are now available in Senji's Corner for characters who haven't travelled to Elona yet, as well. Happy hunting.

nrvllrgrs · Oct 30, 2006, 04:10 PM // 16:10

As a role-player, I really have no desire to keep playing my Dervish unless I can more or less just select Assassin as my secondary in Elona. The story that I created for him doesn't involve him being any of the other professions prior to becoming an Assassin. It ruins my character by selecting a temporary profession until the mechanics of the game allow me to do otherwise.

(But I will say that the game, especially the Heroes, is incredible.)

Domino · Oct 30, 2006, 05:07 PM // 17:07

Okaaaay..... If you can't take yourself out-of-character long enough to get to the profession changer in Senji's Corner... then no offence dude, but you have some issues.

nrvllrgrs · Oct 30, 2006, 06:20 PM // 18:20

At what level then can one change their secondary profession? In order to complete Senjis Corner in Factions, the character effectively has to be level 20. Thats not a temporarily change to the character; thats an outright exchange of the character concept.

Clawdius_Talonious · Oct 30, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

There's a profession changer in Elona, just after the Consulate Docks mission, not 100% sure he will change you to Factions professions though...

MisterB · Oct 30, 2006, 08:21 PM // 20:21

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Originally Posted by nrvllrgrs

At what level then can one change their secondary profession? In order to complete Senjis Corner in Factions, the character effectively has to be level 20. Thats not a temporarily change to the character; thats an outright exchange of the character concept.

Think about this a bit. You are limiting yourself; the game is not limiting you.
If you think about it, you aren't roleplaying correctly, either. The character story for your character would be impossible, in the context of the rules of the in-game world. The only cross-continent professions are core classes. Assassins/Ritualists are not native to Elona; they are all foreign, and thus, there would be no one to train a Dervish or Paragon in their profession,and vice versa. Just think of it as an opportunity to be creative with your character's story; you obviously do that.

On topic, the fact that chapter-specific classes are foreign to previous and subsequent chapters is probably why our characters can not start the game as combinations of them, and must instead master their primary profession to change their secondary to the other classes. They would also have to update the tutorial area of all chapters, every time a new chapter came out, to include quests, and trainers. This is probably viewed as an unnecessary complication that is easily avoided by allowing players to simply use the profession changing mechanic, instead.

nrvllrgrs · Oct 31, 2006, 02:32 PM // 14:32

I understand what you are saying...and looking at it, I will admit that I am limiting myself. Recognizing that my story doesn't make contextual sense within the Elona story (i.e. Assassins and Ritualists are foreign professions), why then should it possible for my Heroes to have Assassin or Ritualist as a secondary profession? If we are going to argue for the sake of story, then it should be consistent.

Oct 29, 2006, 09:42 PM // 21:42	#1
edlyu Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2006	Is is possible to have Nightfall first profession and Faction second profession? I can't seem to go to Cantha to choose either Assassin or Ritualist as my second profession. It seems that I need to complete the quests "Time is Nigh" and "Plague in Cantha" but I can't seem to start the question line w/o choosing a second profession in Nightfall first. Is it even possible? Has anyone been able to do it? thanks.

Oct 29, 2006, 09:49 PM // 21:49	#2
NinjaKai Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: UK Guild: Duality Of The Dragon	Why not go to tyria then cantha?

Oct 29, 2006, 10:06 PM // 22:06	#3
edlyu Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Oct 2006	Seems like I need to finish "Time is Nigh" before going to Tyria as well. Sigh, I bought both Faction and Nightfall anticipating creating a RP character as Dervish/Assassin and I can't seem to do it.

Oct 29, 2006, 10:47 PM // 22:47	#4
Hanok Odbrook Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Tyria Guild: Real Millennium Group Profession: Mo/N	Unfortunately, this is a game design for all three chapters where you essentially have to complete the tutorial, one of the requirements being to choose a secondary profession, before being allowed to continue through the rest of the game or move to other chapters. I posted a suggestion to change this some time ago to allow those of us with linked account easier ways to choose chapter specific secondaries, but only through overwhelming support will Anet take notice and change it. As it is now, you have to complete 20% of the respective campaign (70% in Prophecies), and reach ascension before you can change your secondary profession. Too much work in my opinion for those of us who already know what builds we want and wish to play them from the start. Hanok Odbrook Real Millennium Group Guild Truth * Knowledge * Peace

Oct 29, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48	#5
Pkest Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Hooded Reavers of Eternal Life(Ankh) Profession: R/	You need to pick a secondary for now then do the quests to get to Tyria or Cantha. For Cantha you will still have to finish Nahpui Quarter Mission to get to where the Profession Changer is then you can unlock Rit and Sin for your Elonian Character.

Oct 29, 2006, 10:49 PM // 22:49	#6
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Ummm... You can become wei no su after completing "Time is Nigh" and going to Factions and then change your secondary. Bam, D/A.

Oct 29, 2006, 11:09 PM // 23:09	#7
hopefulliness Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: legendary knights of vanhalla Profession: W/Mo	Couldn't you go to the Great temple of balthazar and talk to the prof changer? Or did they get rid of him?

Oct 29, 2006, 11:19 PM // 23:19	#8
Szechwan Chi Qin Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	I tried talking to the profession changer at the temple, and he said I needed to be ascended or closer to the stars before I could change.

Oct 29, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31	#9
jon0592 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: N/	Just pick a temporary 2ndary then do Time is Nigh or Plague in Cantha, then play till Senji's Corner and presto, you can buy /A.

Oct 30, 2006, 03:49 AM // 03:49	#10
gamecube187 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2006	Don't worry. Just chose any secondary. Do the quest to get to Cantha. Then do 2 missions (I'm pretty sure it's two) and you can change your secondary again, but to a Faction profession.

Oct 30, 2006, 04:00 AM // 04:00	#11
INFPGeek Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pennsylvania	Also, once you hit the mainland. There will be a profession changer that will allow you to choose a factions secondary. That is to say after 4 missions and a few quests you can make your D/A (that is what I did). It's also easier than trying to do the 2 required Cantha missions in something less than max armor.

Oct 30, 2006, 04:09 PM // 16:09	#13
Orinn Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Defiant Dragons	It seems like it should. Dervish and Paragon secondaries are now available in Senji's Corner for characters who haven't travelled to Elona yet, as well. Happy hunting.

Oct 30, 2006, 04:10 PM // 16:10	#14
nrvllrgrs Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Keepers of Lore [LORE] Profession: Me/R	As a role-player, I really have no desire to keep playing my Dervish unless I can more or less just select Assassin as my secondary in Elona. The story that I created for him doesn't involve him being any of the other professions prior to becoming an Assassin. It ruins my character by selecting a temporary profession until the mechanics of the game allow me to do otherwise. (But I will say that the game, especially the Heroes, is incredible.)

Oct 30, 2006, 05:07 PM // 17:07	#15
Domino Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston Profession: A/Rt	Okaaaay..... If you can't take yourself out-of-character long enough to get to the profession changer in Senji's Corner... then no offence dude, but you have some issues.

Oct 30, 2006, 06:20 PM // 18:20	#16
nrvllrgrs Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Keepers of Lore [LORE] Profession: Me/R	At what level then can one change their secondary profession? In order to complete Senjis Corner in Factions, the character effectively has to be level 20. Thats not a temporarily change to the character; thats an outright exchange of the character concept.

Oct 30, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05	#17
Clawdius_Talonious Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Screwston, Tejas Guild: KOS Profession: N/Me	There's a profession changer in Elona, just after the Consulate Docks mission, not 100% sure he will change you to Factions professions though...

Oct 31, 2006, 02:32 PM // 14:32	#19
nrvllrgrs Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Keepers of Lore [LORE] Profession: Me/R	I understand what you are saying...and looking at it, I will admit that I am limiting myself. Recognizing that my story doesn't make contextual sense within the Elona story (i.e. Assassins and Ritualists are foreign professions), why then should it possible for my Heroes to have Assassin or Ritualist as a secondary profession? If we are going to argue for the sake of story, then it should be consistent.